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	- "That sounds like any other, I mean, like normal, average heterosexual high school students when they're all together."		- "That sounds like any other, I mean, like normal, average heterosexual high school students when they're all together."

	- “I feel that zoophilia does not necessarily have to include sex, for example like me and my dog. I mean, I consider myself a zoo, but I don't have to have sex with my dog. I love him more than anything in the universe, I consider him my lover and we are companions. I would do anything for him. It's just everything in my life, so I feel that there will be nothing more than masturbation. And when it comes to that, he starts with it. Sexuality is actually not part of my feeling. It is something he wants and it is he who started it. And I don't think that's the main aspect of my being a zoo. "		- “I feel that zoophilia does not necessarily have to include sex, for example like me and my dog. I mean, I consider myself a zoo, but I don't have to have sex with my dog. I love him more than anything in the universe, I consider him my lover and we are companions. I would do anything for him. It's just everything in my life, so I feel that there will be nothing more than masturbation. And when it comes to that, he starts with it. Sexuality is actually not part of my feeling. It is something he wants and it is he who started it. And I don't think that's the [[Portal:Main\|main]] aspect of my being a zoo. "

	- “I think we are in the process of defining ourselves. Now that we know that there is a group of us that many of us formed maybe three or four years ago, now we are struggling with the nomenclature. "		- “I think we are in the process of defining ourselves. Now that we know that there is a group of us that many of us formed maybe three or four years ago, now we are struggling with the nomenclature. "
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	- “But people will say, 'Yes, but you are only taking advantage of the poor being, it just follows its instinct.' And I always reply, 'Yes, but what would you call it when people do it? It's instinct too! '"		- “But people will say, 'Yes, but you are only taking advantage of the poor being, it just follows its instinct.' And I always reply, 'Yes, but what would you call it when people do it? It's instinct too! '"

	- “I once heard a non-zoo say in a discussion, 'You only trained the animal so that it would be interested in you at all.' And then he said, 'that the animal should be euthanized. "		- “I once heard a [[Non-Zoo\|non-zoo]] say in a discussion, 'You only trained the animal so that it would be interested in you at all.' And then he said, 'that the animal should be euthanized. "

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	So I decided to do some research that should bring facts about this under-explored and misunderstood sexual behavior. I also wanted to understand the motivation and people who have sexual relationships with animals.		So I decided to do some research that should bring facts about this under-explored and misunderstood sexual behavior. I also wanted to understand the motivation and people who have sexual relationships with animals.

	I was fascinated by the idea that some people may be sexually attracted to animals to the point that they prefer animals to humans as sexual partners. The new term that the "zoo" community (zoo is just an abbreviation for zoophilia) has coined on the Internet: "[[zoosexuality]]" includes a sexual orientation towards animals. Stasya (1996), Tanka (1995), Shepherd (1996) and Fox (1994) on the Internet agreed with this definition. And Donofrio (1996) writes that the concept that zoophilia is a sexual orientation is supported by his dissertation. That is why he suggests using a scale that is reminiscent of Kinsey's measure of sexual orientation, which Blake (1971) also proposed. Donofrio's model suggests that those who have no interest whatsoever in sexual contact with animals should		I was fascinated by the idea that some people may be sexually attracted to animals to the point that they prefer animals to humans as sexual partners. The new term that the "zoo" community (zoo is just an abbreviation for zoophilia) has coined on the Internet: "[[zoosexuality]]" includes a [[sexual orientation]] towards animals. Stasya (1996), Tanka (1995), Shepherd (1996) and Fox (1994) on the Internet agreed with this definition. And Donofrio (1996) writes that the concept that zoophilia is a sexual orientation is supported by his dissertation. That is why he suggests using a scale that is reminiscent of Kinsey's measure of sexual orientation, which Blake (1971) also proposed. Donofrio's model suggests that those who have no interest whatsoever in sexual contact with animals should

	So I decided that my research should answer the question: "Is there a sexual orientation towards animals?" I adopted Francoer's definition of sexual orientation (1991) from his work on homosexuality, heterosexuality, and bisexuality. According to this definition, sexual orientation consists of three interdependent aspects: 1. Affectional orientation - who or with what we connect emotionally; 2. Sexual Fantastic Orientation - with whom or what we have sex in our imagination; 3. Erotic orientation - with whom or what we prefer to have sex.		So I decided that my research should answer the question: "Is there a sexual orientation towards animals?" I adopted Francoer's definition of sexual orientation (1991) from his work on homosexuality, heterosexuality, and bisexuality. According to this definition, sexual orientation consists of three interdependent aspects: 1. Affectional orientation - who or with what we connect emotionally; 2. Sexual Fantastic Orientation - with whom or what we have sex in our imagination; 3. Erotic orientation - with whom or what we prefer to have sex.

	Now I had to find subjects. I just had no idea how to handle it. I had my client, but that was definitely not enough. So I started talking about it to anyone who would listen to me. I put an ad in The Wild Animal Revue. I posted a notice on the bulletin board of the Institute for Advanced Study for Human Sexuality. I sent a letter to Mark Matthews, the founder of the Zoophiliac Outreach Organization. I placed an ad in Sexual Science, the Society for Scientific Study of Sexuality's newsletter. I placed an ad in Contemporary Sexuality, the American Association for Sex Educators, Counselors and Therapists (AASECT) newsletter. And above all, I posted a corresponding posting on the Internet in the newsgroup [[alt.sex.bestiality]].		Now I had to find subjects. I just had no idea how to handle it. I had my client, but that was definitely not enough. So I started talking about it to anyone who would listen to me. I put an ad in The Wild Animal Revue. I posted a notice on the bulletin board of the Institute for Advanced Study for Human Sexuality. I sent a letter to Mark Matthews, the founder of the Zoophiliac Outreach Organization. I placed an ad in Sexual Science, the [[Society]] for Scientific Study of Sexuality's newsletter. I placed an ad in Contemporary Sexuality, the American Association for Sex Educators, Counselors and Therapists (AASECT) newsletter. And above all, I posted a corresponding posting on the Internet in the newsgroup [[alt.sex.bestiality]].

	When I went to Baltimore, Maryland, to the AASECT annual meeting in June 1996, I posted a notice on the notice board there too. A prominent sexologist (from another organization) felt offended by the notice and had it removed. In the end, this sad incident had its good side: the President of AASECT, at the time Dr. Judy Seifer, apologized formally and became one of my mentors on this dissertation. Before the notice was taken down it had already been photographed by a journalist. It then finally appeared in the Baltimore City Paper of June 19, 1996 as part of an article by Motoyama on the above conference.		When I went to Baltimore, Maryland, to the AASECT annual meeting in June 1996, I posted a notice on the notice board there too. A prominent sexologist (from another organization) felt offended by the notice and had it removed. In the end, this sad incident had its good side: the President of AASECT, at the time Dr. Judy Seifer, apologized formally and became one of my mentors on this dissertation. Before the notice was taken down it had already been photographed by a journalist. It then finally appeared in the Baltimore City Paper of June 19, 1996 as part of an article by Motoyama on the above conference.
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	"Volunteers wanted ... Anyone who has ever had a sexual relationship with an animal ... To fill out an anonymous questionnaire. I am a PhD student writing her dissertation on bestiality / zoophilia. I believe that this topic has not been adequately researched and so it is important to shed some light on this phenomenon. Especially important for people who have problems with this topic and for their psychologists / therapists. Please call me on weekdays at (my phone number) and ask for Hani. I am glad of any help I can get. Thanks!"		"Volunteers wanted ... Anyone who has ever had a sexual relationship with an animal ... To fill out an anonymous questionnaire. I am a PhD student writing her dissertation on bestiality / zoophilia. I believe that this topic has not been adequately researched and so it is important to shed some light on this phenomenon. Especially important for people who have problems with this topic and for their psychologists / therapists. Please call me on weekdays at (my phone number) and ask for Hani. I am glad of any help I can get. Thanks!"

	One day I got a phone call from a woman, I'll call her Beverly here. She told me that she had heard about me and my study from a friend on the Internet and that she would be happy to help. I was excited. We talked for about 10 minutes and now I was impressed. She was divorced, had a daughter and a boyfriend. It sounded very intelligent and it was a zoo. She also said that she has many connections in the zoo community and that she would ask anyone to give me a call. I could barely contain my excitement.		One day I got a phone call from a woman, I'll call her Beverly here. She told me that she had heard about me and my study from a friend on the Internet and that she would be happy to help. I was excited. We talked for about 10 minutes and now I was impressed. She was divorced, had a daughter and a boyfriend. It sounded very intelligent and it was a zoo. She also said that she has many connections in the [[zoo community]] and that she would ask anyone to give me a call. I could barely contain my excitement.

	The next day I got a call from a man I will call Jim here. Jim was a college professor and a close friend of Beverly's. They lived about 20 minutes apart. We talked for maybe an hour. He sounded like a nice, smart boy and I really enjoyed our conversation. Then Ted called. He was a biologist and a friend of Jim's. It was a zoo too, and I felt heavenly.		The next day I got a call from a man I will call Jim here. Jim was a college professor and a close friend of Beverly's. They lived about 20 minutes apart. We talked for maybe an hour. He sounded like a nice, smart boy and I really enjoyed our conversation. Then Ted called. He was a biologist and a friend of Jim's. It was a zoo too, and I felt heavenly.
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	- "If you don't have any problems with sexuality yourself and it doesn't harm your partner or society, then you shouldn't consider it wrong. I hope that modern psychologists see it that way too, that you don't hurt your partner You can argue about bestialists, but when you're in a zoo you don't hurt your partner or society. Unless they are filming you through the window and then getting upset about it. "		- "If you don't have any problems with sexuality yourself and it doesn't harm your partner or society, then you shouldn't consider it wrong. I hope that modern psychologists see it that way too, that you don't hurt your partner You can argue about bestialists, but when you're in a zoo you don't hurt your partner or society. Unless they are filming you through the window and then getting upset about it. "

	- "In my case it was like this: my family had an educational book about human sexuality in a bookcase when I was growing up. And since the day I found the book and read about zoophilia, I haven't done anything about it but I said to myself, 'Whoa, OK'. And I love Greek sagas. I thought they were pretty cool, and at that point I knew about my inclination and never really had a problem with it. "		- "In my case it was like this: my family had an educational book about [[human sexuality]] in a bookcase when I was growing up. And since the day I found the book and read about zoophilia, I haven't done anything about it but I said to myself, 'Whoa, OK'. And I love Greek sagas. I thought they were pretty cool, and at that point I knew about my inclination and never really had a problem with it. "

	- "I have found that I am able to react erotically to many different stimuli, and just cannot relate this kind of morality, this construct of our society to these natural feelings of mine."		- "I have found that I am able to react erotically to many different stimuli, and just cannot relate this kind of morality, this construct of our society to these natural feelings of mine."
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	- "I don't know what it's like not to be a zoophile, so I can't say yes or no to it."		- "I don't know what it's like not to be a zoophile, so I can't say yes or no to it."

	- "Yes, if I hadn't been one from the start, then maybe I would rather not be one. But would I want a transformation from a zoo into a non-zoo? No."		- "Yes, if I hadn't been one from the start, then maybe I would rather not be one. But would I want a transformation from a zoo into a [[Non-Zoo\|non-zoo]]? No."

	- "Yes, I would. That may be a shock now, but I would like it. Because when I imagine what I am and what it means to deal with it and to learn to live with it. And I was ready, I have sat there wondering if it wouldn't be better to quit. It was causing me immense pain. I would change it because, to be honest, I've had my zoophilia since I was 14. Until I was 25 I didn't even have a word for it. I just knew I was different. But it has caused me a lot of pain in my life and I have never been able to get it under control. To this day I struggle with it and suffer . "		- "Yes, I would. That may be a shock now, but I would like it. Because when I imagine what I am and what it means to deal with it and to learn to live with it. And I was ready, I have sat there wondering if it wouldn't be better to quit. It was causing me immense pain. I would change it because, to be honest, I've had my zoophilia since I was 14. Until I was 25 I didn't even have a word for it. I just knew I was different. But it has caused me a lot of pain in my life and I have never been able to get it under control. To this day I struggle with it and suffer . "
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	The Hidden Lives of the Zoophiles: What You Didn't Know About Sex With Animals		The Hidden Lives of the [[Zoophiles]]: What You Didn't Know About Sex With Animals
	By Dr. Hani Miletski , Ph.D.		By Dr. [[Hani Miletski]] , Ph.D.
	translated by Michael Kiok & retranslated by Quantum Husky with Google Translate		translated by Michael Kiok & retranslated by [[Quantum Husky]] with Google Translate


	It all started when one of my clients, I want to call him Christian, told me that he couldn't find any literature on bestiality / zoophilia. He was a client in my psychotherapy practice because he couldn't stop having sex with dogs. He was a very religious person who believed it was wrong to have sexual relations with anything other than a woman. And then only if you are married to this woman. Even so, he couldn't control his urge to have sexual relations with the neighborhood dogs.		It all started when one of my clients, I want to call him Christian, told me that he couldn't find any [[literature]] on [[bestiality]] / [[zoophilia]]. He was a client in my psychotherapy practice because he couldn't stop having sex with dogs. He was a very religious person who believed it was wrong to have sexual relations with anything other than a woman. And then only if you are married to this woman. Even so, he couldn't control his urge to have sexual relations with the neighborhood dogs.

	I asked the librarian at the Sexuality Information and Education Council of the United States (SIECUS) to do a literature search for me (I had no internet connection at the time), which ended in greater disappointment. There was nothing out there about bestiality and zoophilia but an autobiography by Mark Matthews: The Horseman: Obsessions of a Zoophile. In this book the author describes his struggle with himself to accept that he loves his horse more than his wife. He describes himself as an intelligent working person who is sexually attracted to horses and who actually married after admitting his love for his horse.		I asked the librarian at the [[Sexuality]] Information and Education Council of the United States (SIECUS) to do a literature search for me (I had no internet connection at the time), which ended in greater disappointment. There was nothing out there about bestiality and zoophilia but an autobiography by Mark Matthews: The Horseman: Obsessions of a [[Zoophile]]. In this book the author describes his struggle with himself to accept that he loves his [[horse]] more than his wife. He describes himself as an intelligent working person who is sexually attracted to horses and who actually married after admitting his [[love]] for his horse.

	I was intrigued by the idea that there might be people there who were sexually addressed by animals and even preferred animals to humans as sexual partners. I decided to devote my PhD to this topic and started to study zoophilia / bestiality.		I was intrigued by the idea that there might be people there who were sexually addressed by animals and even preferred animals to humans as sexual partners. I decided to devote my PhD to this topic and started to study zoophilia / bestiality.
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	With renewed vigor, I now spent full days in the library of the Institute for Advanced Study of Human Sexuality in San Francisco, the Library of Congress in Washington, DC, and the library of the National Institute for Mental Health (NIMH) in Bethesda, Maryland . I found a specialized magazine, The Wild Animal Revue, which gave me a lot of information on the subject, and whose editor was kind enough to borrow various rare books to help me with my research. I bought other rare books from a small store in New York, and the Internet was a rich source of information on bestiality and zoophilia.		With renewed vigor, I now spent full days in the library of the Institute for Advanced Study of Human Sexuality in San Francisco, the Library of Congress in Washington, DC, and the library of the National Institute for Mental Health (NIMH) in Bethesda, Maryland . I found a specialized magazine, The Wild Animal Revue, which gave me a lot of information on the subject, and whose editor was kind enough to borrow various rare books to help me with my research. I bought other rare books from a small store in New York, and the Internet was a rich source of information on bestiality and zoophilia.

	In the end I found a number of books and articles whose authors mention and sometimes discuss zoophilia and bestiality. Many authors suggest that human beings have and have had sexual relations with animals since the beginning of history and around the world (more in some countries than others). These authors state that one secretly dreamed, thought of and practiced sexual relations with animals, and that this reappeared in myths, fairy tales, folklore, literature, painting, and in the form of sculpture (Cauldwell, 1948; Dumont, 1970; Kinsey et al, 1948; Kullinger, 1969; Masters, 1962). Nonetheless, none of these authors provide a deeper insight into the life and behavioral patterns of people who have sexual relationships with animals. Many authors contribute their personal opinions and discuss sexual relationships with animals as if they were experts in the field. However, their opinions are often conflicting, which confuses the reader.		In the end I found a number of books and articles whose authors mention and sometimes discuss zoophilia and bestiality. Many authors suggest that human beings have and have had sexual relations with animals since the beginning of [[history]] and around the world (more in some countries than others). These authors state that one secretly dreamed, thought of and practiced sexual relations with animals, and that this reappeared in myths, fairy tales, folklore, literature, painting, and in the form of sculpture (Cauldwell, 1948; Dumont, 1970; Kinsey et al, 1948; Kullinger, 1969; Masters, 1962). Nonetheless, none of these authors provide a deeper insight into the life and behavioral patterns of people who have sexual relationships with animals. Many authors contribute their personal opinions and discuss sexual relationships with animals as if they were experts in the field. However, their opinions are often conflicting, which confuses the reader.

	This extensive literature search dispelled any remaining doubts about the need for a study of bestiality and zoophilia. My literature research showed that scientific studies on the motivation leading to bestiality / zoophilia and studies describing the sexual, social, mental and health profile of those affected are very rare. The few studies in the literature review that deal with these questions (Kinsey et al., 1948; Kinsey et al., 1953; and Hunt, 1974) proved out of date and not very productive because they did not specifically address the topic of bestiality / Investigate zoophilia. The more recent study by Donofrio (1996) deals explicitly with people who have sexual relationships with animals,		This extensive literature search dispelled any remaining doubts about the need for a study of bestiality and zoophilia. My literature research showed that scientific studies on the motivation leading to bestiality / zoophilia and studies describing the sexual, social, mental and health profile of those affected are very rare. The few studies in the literature review that deal with these questions (Kinsey et al., 1948; Kinsey et al., 1953; and Hunt, 1974) proved out of date and not very productive because they did not specifically address the topic of bestiality / Investigate zoophilia. The more recent study by Donofrio (1996) deals explicitly with people who have sexual relationships with animals,
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	So I decided to do some research that should bring facts about this under-explored and misunderstood sexual behavior. I also wanted to understand the motivation and people who have sexual relationships with animals.		So I decided to do some research that should bring facts about this under-explored and misunderstood sexual behavior. I also wanted to understand the motivation and people who have sexual relationships with animals.

	I was fascinated by the idea that some people may be sexually attracted to animals to the point that they prefer animals to humans as sexual partners. The new term that the "zoo" community (zoo is just an abbreviation for zoophilia) has coined on the Internet: "zoosexuality" includes a sexual orientation towards animals. Stasya (1996), Tanka (1995), Shepherd (1996) and Fox (1994) on the Internet agreed with this definition. And Donofrio (1996) writes that the concept that zoophilia is a sexual orientation is supported by his dissertation. That is why he suggests using a scale that is reminiscent of Kinsey's measure of sexual orientation, which Blake (1971) also proposed. Donofrio's model suggests that those who have no interest whatsoever in sexual contact with animals should		I was fascinated by the idea that some people may be sexually attracted to animals to the point that they prefer animals to humans as sexual partners. The new term that the "zoo" community (zoo is just an abbreviation for zoophilia) has coined on the Internet: "[[zoosexuality]]" includes a sexual orientation towards animals. Stasya (1996), Tanka (1995), Shepherd (1996) and Fox (1994) on the Internet agreed with this definition. And Donofrio (1996) writes that the concept that zoophilia is a sexual orientation is supported by his dissertation. That is why he suggests using a scale that is reminiscent of Kinsey's measure of sexual orientation, which Blake (1971) also proposed. Donofrio's model suggests that those who have no interest whatsoever in sexual contact with animals should

	So I decided that my research should answer the question: "Is there a sexual orientation towards animals?" I adopted Francoer's definition of sexual orientation (1991) from his work on homosexuality, heterosexuality, and bisexuality. According to this definition, sexual orientation consists of three interdependent aspects: 1. Affectional orientation - who or with what we connect emotionally; 2. Sexual Fantastic Orientation - with whom or what we have sex in our imagination; 3. Erotic orientation - with whom or what we prefer to have sex.		So I decided that my research should answer the question: "Is there a sexual orientation towards animals?" I adopted Francoer's definition of sexual orientation (1991) from his work on homosexuality, heterosexuality, and bisexuality. According to this definition, sexual orientation consists of three interdependent aspects: 1. Affectional orientation - who or with what we connect emotionally; 2. Sexual Fantastic Orientation - with whom or what we have sex in our imagination; 3. Erotic orientation - with whom or what we prefer to have sex.

	Now I had to find subjects. I just had no idea how to handle it. I had my client, but that was definitely not enough. So I started talking about it to anyone who would listen to me. I put an ad in The Wild Animal Revue. I posted a notice on the bulletin board of the Institute for Advanced Study for Human Sexuality. I sent a letter to Mark Matthews, the founder of the Zoophiliac Outreach Organization. I placed an ad in Sexual Science, the Society for Scientific Study of Sexuality's newsletter. I placed an ad in Contemporary Sexuality, the American Association for Sex Educators, Counselors and Therapists (AASECT) newsletter. And above all, I posted a corresponding posting on the Internet in the newsgroup alt.sex.bestiality.		Now I had to find subjects. I just had no idea how to handle it. I had my client, but that was definitely not enough. So I started talking about it to anyone who would listen to me. I put an ad in The Wild Animal Revue. I posted a notice on the bulletin board of the Institute for Advanced Study for Human Sexuality. I sent a letter to Mark Matthews, the founder of the Zoophiliac Outreach Organization. I placed an ad in Sexual Science, the Society for Scientific Study of Sexuality's newsletter. I placed an ad in Contemporary Sexuality, the American Association for Sex Educators, Counselors and Therapists (AASECT) newsletter. And above all, I posted a corresponding posting on the Internet in the newsgroup [[alt.sex.bestiality]].

	When I went to Baltimore, Maryland, to the AASECT annual meeting in June 1996, I posted a notice on the notice board there too. A prominent sexologist (from another organization) felt offended by the notice and had it removed. In the end, this sad incident had its good side: the President of AASECT, at the time Dr. Judy Seifer, apologized formally and became one of my mentors on this dissertation. Before the notice was taken down it had already been photographed by a journalist. It then finally appeared in the Baltimore City Paper of June 19, 1996 as part of an article by Motoyama on the above conference.		When I went to Baltimore, Maryland, to the AASECT annual meeting in June 1996, I posted a notice on the notice board there too. A prominent sexologist (from another organization) felt offended by the notice and had it removed. In the end, this sad incident had its good side: the President of AASECT, at the time Dr. Judy Seifer, apologized formally and became one of my mentors on this dissertation. Before the notice was taken down it had already been photographed by a journalist. It then finally appeared in the Baltimore City Paper of June 19, 1996 as part of an article by Motoyama on the above conference.
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	- “I think we are in the process of defining ourselves. Now that we know that there is a group of us that many of us formed maybe three or four years ago, now we are struggling with the nomenclature. "		- “I think we are in the process of defining ourselves. Now that we know that there is a group of us that many of us formed maybe three or four years ago, now we are struggling with the nomenclature. "

	- "The best word that will probably be coined is zoosexual because it takes all these arguments and throws them out the window."		- "The best word that will probably be coined is [[zoosexual]] because it takes all these arguments and throws them out the window."

	- "Zoosexual actually includes everything we talked about."		- "Zoosexual actually includes everything we talked about."
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	- "More and more women are appearing on the net, and that's how they come to these meetings - - there are some here, for example there is Goldie, who is not a zoo at all but sits here with us because she just thinks we are cool. .. "		- "More and more women are appearing on the net, and that's how they come to these meetings - - there are some here, for example there is Goldie, who is not a zoo at all but sits here with us because she just thinks we are cool. .. "

	- “But there are still quite a few women who don't feel comfortable talking about it ... Maybe in chat, but they [female zoos] would never talk about it in public. You have to be more careful, and you would do well because there are tons of horny men out there online - 60% chandeliers ... "		- “But there are still quite a few women who don't feel comfortable talking about it ... Maybe in chat, but they [female zoos] would never talk about it in public. You have to be more careful, and you would do well because there are tons of [[horny]] men out there online - 60% chandeliers ... "

	- “There are a lot more [female zoos] out there than our group shows here. Most of us can confirm this by personal e-mail. "		- “There are a lot more [female zoos] out there than our group shows here. Most of us can confirm this by personal e-mail. "
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	- "I've had sex with animals since I was eight. At the time, I really had no conception of right or wrong in what I was doing. I just knew that if my mother caught me there would be trouble. But I did didn't really know why. I just knew that it was really nice and that I liked to do it. "		- "I've had sex with animals since I was eight. At the time, I really had no conception of right or wrong in what I was doing. I just knew that if my mother caught me there would be trouble. But I did didn't really know why. I just knew that it was really nice and that I liked to do it. "

	- "I don't know much about heredity, but I think I was born that way. I've always been so close to nature and animals that I think I never thought that was really wrong. I couldn't see that when I did loved an animal so much why I shouldn't go a step further. I just feel like I was born this way. It's not that something necessarily happened in my childhood that drove me away from women or anything. I wasn't an anti-social kid. My parents even told me I was a normal kid. " (Laughter)		- "I don't know much about heredity, but I think I was born that way. I've always been so close to nature and animals that I think I never thought that was really wrong. I couldn't see that when I did loved an animal so much why I shouldn't go a step [[further]]. I just feel like I was born this way. It's not that something necessarily happened in my childhood that drove me away from women or anything. I wasn't an anti-social kid. My parents even told me I was a normal kid. " (Laughter)