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Greetings fellow zoos and welcome to a triumphant episode of Zooier Than Thou !
I'm a cat who loves you, love cat.
And I'm Toggle one big grumpy rat.
I'm sure you are
and we'll be your hosts for this episode
Wow episode 12 we're almost at the end of the first season !
It's almost hard to believe it's been a year and this time last year we hadn't even met
No indeed, I'd have never met a great portion of
the zoo crew without this podcast
it's been a wonderful zoo year but more
about that next episode
yes today let's do some emails
yes indeed !
first up, here's our friendly neighborhood zoo
sexual, a regular contributor commenting
on episode 11.
Our friend writes in short :
"I was kind of expecting to cry during
this episode but instead you guys had me
laughing so hard that my vision went
fuzzy for several minutes"
Oh... I'm super glad to hear that we were recording
episode 11 right as Fausty passed but I
didn't have the energy of that
episode taken down by the tragedy we
were all dealing with
most of the episode was recorded just before he died
so thankfully it wasn't hard to keep
things in a positive perspective
Speaking of, here is an email about
episode 12 from kisses for bitches
kisses writes: "love this episode
especially with so many of you I've
interacted with on Twitter, so sincerely
sorry about Fausty and I've had simple
DMS with him about ztt, uniquely
dangerous and anti zoos.
I would have personally liked to meet him either in
voice or in person he was active online
around the same time I was in the 90s
and early 2000s
I'm surprised we never
crossed paths back then or maybe we did
and I just didn't know it or don't
remember
we're almost exactly a year
apart in age both in March
Anyhow I'm so
pleased that the zoo cast seems alive
and well with the most recent episode.
You rock loved cat ! great job to you all
and my opinion is so important to us all
that zoott continues even though Doug is
no longer with us
I think we can definitely all agree on that.
The importance of this podcast to each
of us on the team is definitely been
reflected in the feedback that we've
gotten from the majority of the people
who have sent us feedback. It's pretty
amazing, flattering, humbling, that we are
able to do anything that has this kind
of an impact in the lives of other
people and especially others zoos out there
in the world.
Definitely and you know
actually, there was a point where you
know, Fausty were not sure that we
could continue and I will tell you that
the people who are working on Zoot right
now were ready and willing to continue
the podcast because they felt it was so
important. So you do not have to worry
about our faltering of dedication: we
understand the importance of this
podcast and, to be honest, it gives me
such a great amount of fulfillment that
I don't think I could stop even if I
wanted to...
Hmm-hmm and with with Fausty's passing at least for me the fact
that he left us with this project has
been one of the major factors that has
allowed me to cope with his passing
because I feel that as I'm putting my
energy into this, that energy is not
expressed as grief to nearly the extent
that it would have been otherwise I
don't know if you get that to Toggle I'm
guessing
Yeah I do yeah you know it's
like I knew he wanted this to continue
after he was gone and I can feel the
energy when I [#help approach (4:00)] the
podcast like this is important, this is
something that he wanted to keep going
and by keeping it going, I know I'm
keeping him alive in a way
(4:11)
- Absolutely. Already here's a short email from
speechless in Seattle who writes so is
it mail spelled M-A-I-L or mail spelled
M-A-l-E "hope I'm not clogging up your
inbox with random jokes. One of the many
endearing parts of your podcast which I
expected myself to grow tired of but
found that I'm not. Brandon today (glad to
know that) a random tidbit my friends
mom's mailbag says mail male on it
- Oh no that's these mail-male bit has fans
- We try to clog this podcast full of
terrible puns as much as possible
because we have a terrible sense of
humor
thanks for putting
- And thanks for
enjoying the podcast. Ask your friends
mom where I can get a bag like that
Alright. So the next email is from Abe
rodent this rodent writes "dear Zoot I
first heard about your podcast and
Toggle' specifically last year, but I was
too scared to make contact so I just
lurked. Eventually I summon enough
courage to reach out to the ratty
co-host with the first words "please
don't block me !". I then explained that I
was a zoo sexual and how I felt about
animal welfare in general. He pointed me
to this podcast and in about four days I
listened to every single episode to date.
It was the first time I had ever seen
zoos portrayed positively which is
something I wish that I had seen when I
first started looking for other zoos and
inevitably found Beastforum mm-hmm I
didn't like the abuse that I saw and I
was scared I think that I might be like
them. In other words I don't remember
seeing positive and healthy interspecies
relationships like I had wanted.
This podcast and the community around it has
changed that : it was refreshing to see
zoo sexuals representing themselves in a
positive way, combating bigotry and
stereotypes with accurate representation.
It even encouraged me to come out to a non zoo
which went amazingly well
In fact my only regret is that I never reached out when I first learned to the podcast
Instead, the first day I spoke to
toggle was the last day that Fausty
was alive and it was a very emotional time for him and his loved ones.
I wish I could have said hi.
However, now it is the future and I am reinvigorated to help support animals
and those of us who love them more than most in any small way that I can.
I am still scared however, I realized that we don't represent
ourselves others will
as you always say : "exposure is the solution"
Thank you for keeping the podcast alive.
Uou guys do a great job and I hope this is a valuable
community resource for future zoos.
Sincerely, Abe rodent"
- That's a beautiful email (yeah) that one
touches me deeply and especially what he
says here about wishing to have spoken
to Fausty, it just brings home that we
have to take the opportunities that we
have to mean the people that are
important in our lives and to always
take every opportunity to remind the
people that we already have in our lives
our friends and our families that we
love them that they matter to us that
that we cherish them and understand that
once they're gone they're gone and every
chance that we had to let them know
how important they were in our lives
will become with them. For Fausty, I'm
sure you remember Toggle, when I first
reached out to him, I had just read the
book and I the last thing that I saw was
a news article online saying that he had
been sent to prison and I thought that
that's where he was yeah until I heard
his voice on the podcast, and I can't
tell you the feeling of happiness
that gave me to know that I wouldn't
have to somehow find my way through you
know, trying to contact him anonymous in
prison, you know and I was just imagining
him rotting away there in jail, but it
it's a source of, well, I mean joy and
purpose and meaning in my life a lot of
which stemmed from Doug and from what he
represented to me before during and now
after having known him in person this
past year. So I think it's very
important that we continue to reach out
to the people in our lives and build
this community because the communities
was made [#help of the people who were](8:47) in it so
I would encourage Broden to continue
what he's doing.
Yeah and remember you know Fausty is
just one of many older zoos that have a
perspective that a lot of us that have
been here just for the last 20 years may
not have. So reach out to older zoos they
have a lot of good stuff to say.
Yeah reach out to a lot of zoos I mean
I've met a couple of dozen zoos
just over this past year, having gone the
entire previous bunch of my life never
having met another one and knowing other
zoos has been incredibly powerful just
to have other people around whom I can
let that guard down and not have to
worry either that they're going to
reject me or that they're going to not
necessarily object me but just kind of
not really want to know about that. I've
been incredibly lucky with friends and
family who are non zoos and their total
acceptance of me, but at the same time
there's just nothing like the
fellowship that I felt with others zoophiles.
(9:50)
You know this fellow Broden
reached out to me last month and was so
skittish and afraid at first like but as
he listened to our podcast it was clear
that a sense of pride in himself was
blooming and I am so glad that this
thing we do could be a part of
instilling that sense of self-confidence
and self-worth.
He has become a very good friend and I'm
glad we finally met even if the timing
was particularly depressing but I will
say you know hearing his positive
experience with the podcast while I was
dealing with the Fausty's passing was
actually very helpful for me in [#help coping](10:24)
So, rock on Broden, let's get the heavy
around as a friend love you bud.
And now, we have so many emails and we apologize if
we haven't gotten to yours yet. Some of
them were holding on for future episodes,
some of them we haven't had time to
reply to yet but rest assured we do read
each and every one.
Don't be afraid to
reach out as my Broden found out we're
not scary and we're not celebrities.
We're just normal zoos like you, just
doing something we're passionate about
and we love meeting new people.
(10:54)
Alright friends, let's get into the topic
at hand: last month, we set out to find [#help suit (10:57)]
perspectives from around the world and
we collected a lot of really interesting
interviews.
Yeah we met with zoos from
Peru, Germany, Sweden, Japan
and I think a couple of other places as
well.
We found ourselves with a lot of
interviews, way more than we have time to
air on this single episode.
Now rest assured we plan to release these
interviews over time, but after our
latest interview which lasted two hours
we felt it would be beneficial to focus
our time in one place and give them time
to shine...
11:26
While we're not meant to be or
capable of being all things to all
people, we add Zooier Than Thou do hope to be
representative of the zoo community and
zoos are members of every other
demographic: sexual, gender, ethnic,
national, religious, economic, etc etc and
our inclusivity is born from the respect
for the validity and value of all living
feeling life forms. So when we consider
how we relate to each other as fellow
animals and as Homo sapiens, we are
informed by that attitude and we're
making the effort to live that
inclusivity.
That means we want to make
an effort to help share the experiences
of zoos around the world of every
background. There's a lot we could be
doing to that end such as getting more
women or trans people involved at the
podcast, featuring more voices of color, etc
e realize that we're limited on our
perspective, being a largely male
collection of zoos from the US, so we
reached out to find more diverse
perspectives.
That said, we have decided
to focus on one this episode we found to
be particularly informative and one we
think you'll particularly enjoy. We
reached out to Michael Kiok and the
Zeta Verein in Germany and we were
thrilled when they agreed to meet with
us.
Yeah Michael is one of the first
people Doug put on the list of potential
interviews. As you hear later in the
episode, Michael Kiok is the most well known
zoophile in Germany and the organisation
he helped create successfully fought back
against the law which was touted as an
anti zoophile law by animal rights
groups.
A lot of Zeta stated goals fall
in line with Zooier Than Thou, and we
hope you'll take some time to look at
their website zeta-verein.de
There's information
translated in english there, and they
recommend deepl.com(13:14) where translations
are not available that's deepl.com
One of the things that antizoos count
is that zoophilia is illegal as a matter
of moral justice, and that it's always
been and always will be znd that all
reasonable people will see it their way.
(13:27)
We all obviously know that's completely
false and Zeta Verein story is an
excellent example of that.
Recently, in fact, I've personally been going back
over the Danish Animal Ethics council's
2006 findings about Zoophilia, in which
they concluded that no anti bestiality
law was necessary, and it's been
refreshing to hear complete non zoos
speak reasonably and clearly about
zoophilia. The objections people often
raised about zoophilia and the
conclusion that it's actually not
harmful when the animals health and
well-being is taken into consideration.
The council followed up later on around
the time the law and Denmark was passed,
and found once again that their position
had not changed and that they did not
recommend that a law be passed, in spite
of mounting social pressure and
propaganda, that led politicians to
ignore their recommendation.
Several of the myths about animal sexuality are
dismissed in this original rulings, such
as animals only having sex for
reproduction, when it's clear as they
found they engage in sex primarily
because of the pleasure derived from the
activity. I found it quite refreshing!
It was one of the first published zoophile
media I've read when I decided to
explore and do my own research. And if
you haven't read it yet I have a copy
unofficially translated English that you
can have: I'll put a link in the
description of this podcast, which you
can see either at our website, or on
YouTube for those coming from other
places.
We're excited to share this
episode with you so I hope you'll stay
tuned for more Zooier Than Thou now right
after this.
(14:53)
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(15:36)
You've definitely seen me before we've hung out, we've gotten along.
You've told me your deepest secrets and
I've listened without judgment. Your dog
seems to like me so do your parents.
"I'm a decent guy", you tell people.
I'm also a zoophile, and I'm afraid to tell you
well the strength of our relationship
outweigh the taboo nature of my
sexuality. Nine times out of ten, my
experience is yes, but what if it's that
one time ? I don't want to lose people I
love. So I'm a zoophile you note. Yet I've
never even looked at your dog, funny, I'm
just normal. Ultimately, you decide your
reaction to the news. You could become
afraid that it'll fall back on you. You
could become disgusted and paint me into
a caricature of what I am, or you could
try to understand, open your mind and
your heart, and learn about me.
What will you do?...
(16:57)
Welcome back, fellow zoos ! Today we have
some very special guests with us today: I
would like to introduce Michael Kiok
and his compatriot Komet, of the Zeta
society in Germany.
Welcome guys !
We're super thrilled to have you
Here this is actually you guys were on
the top list of people that are good for
an Fausty wanted to invite on the show
from the very day one,
so we're very excited to finally go get you guys on
the air
- I'm honored to be here
- yes we are honored to have you
- Nice to meet you
So I'm curious I guess one of the best ways to start is
I think a lot of people in the US don't know you very well but,
Michael, you are someone infamous as I think a reporter
said the most famous zoophile in Germany ?
or well known perhaps ?
Well known yes well it
happens that during the [#help ...](18:05) with the
80's and I got the face in the news.
But your journey obviously doesn't start
at becoming the most recognizable zoophile in Germany.
I understand it starts
much earlier, on usenet sounds like
Yes, indeed on Usenet, it was about 1994-95
when I had access to the Usenet and
found a newsgroup which was called
alt.sex.bestiality, perhaps you
know ?
I have heard of it yes it is popped
up in discussion a couple of times...
Yes, and which as far as I could know
was invented as a joke by some technician or computer man in some
university and after a short time there
were indeed [#help ...](19:08) zoos which were
gathering there and talking.
Yeah it said
something similar about an IRC channel
[#help found dog sex](19:19) also apparently was
a joke as well, jokes on them now.
Yeah, then we're for real baby!
Yes and it was
for me and for a lot of other persons
which were there, it was a big relief to
find other people who also zoos [#help ...](19:42)
after a short while there were
some people who were sympathetic
with each other and already
there began the distinctions between
beastialists, so poor sex, and zoophiles, where the emotional bonds to the
animals is in the foreground.
I remember a group which was called real.world.zoos which wanted to
define how many words you
should talk a day with humans to
remain a zoo, which was a little extra
mystical I think
(It's crazy ! Yes, that's actually crazy !)
I remember a thing that Fausty said : the real world zoos are in a
kind of a nutshell: if
you aren't actively, you know, practicing
bestiality and in a like a monogamous
relationship with an animal, you weren't
really a zoo. Is that kind of a good
summary ?
I think so people love defining each other out of kind of groups
Yes.
A little later, there was
the topic arised ? arose ? in German
newsgroups
called de.talk.sex (called de.talk.sex ok, de for
Deutschland) yeah you know, exactly. And
afterwards it was called [#help big deep
talk _____] (21:28) which is the same, but
isn't it so well flooded by spambots
because the area was flooded with spam.
There were some very active persons who
were against Zoos especially one, called
[#help nothing blue it's Marty flower step](21:49), who
said he was a sexual scientists. But I
know that he was electrician.
But he was very good in scanning very long and
very complicated articles of which he
liked the headline and posted them to
proove that zoos are subhuman and
degenerated and against God and
so on.
But if you I think no one read these long texts, but if you
read it, then you could prove to him that
the rest of the text had not much to do
with the headline...
Well seems very familiar even on Twitter !
There were some others and there were also a group of
zoos, and these flame wars and arguments
and discussions in the best
way most time it was frame was went
on for six years, and I think it was
very very good for us, because we
were nearly always more or less polite
and mindful when others began to be become
very emotional and
insulting and so on, and of course
it was not only these perhaps 40-50% who were discussing there over
the time, but there were thousands
of others who were reading it and
it did not discuss and I think this hate
was also beginning in Germany to get the
topic of zoophilia more to the
mainstream and you can... now
it's it's nearly twenty years ago,
but you can, you could watch development
that this topic, the topic of zoophilia,
and the relationship between
humans and animals which is very diverse
of course: we you can kill them but you
may not have sex with them, and if you
love them too much, and
suffer when it's dying
that's it but it was only an animal and so on...
(24:24)
There was some diverging currents in the zoo
society: one wants to put, to draw
any meds closer to humans, because they
have the same feelings and they are more
or less very similar
Yeah there is other animal living beings that
experience things very similarly to it
that we do although we, the [#help Human
_____
leaden I deny that] (24:50)
Yes, and others zoo also feel this but if they consent
to this: that animals and humans are very
close, they had to change the lifestyle
and the society yes then you could not
make factory farming and killing animals
for food and testing in laboratories and
all these things which are bad for
animals.
- You can't justify them
- Yeah you cannot, in yes indeed of course
you can close your eyes and says "well I
love my dog but I don't care about
what's about other animals", but it's not
very consequently.
(25:35)
Of course, people like to stay in the in their region, where they feel good and if they change themselves, or think in new ways, then these security is gone and to avoid...
- Yes, we can see that very much in the kind of interactions we have with antis every day.
Let me ask you Kommet; were you around for the Usenet or newsgroups ?
- No I joined to zeta in 2012, so I came to realize that I'm a zoo around that time as well
- That lives lead us then to the next big
huge question on the mind, so, tell us
about the origins of the Zeta society
or the zeta "verein" ? How do you say ?
- Verein, yes
- Tell us a little bit about how that began
- A lot of people, a lot of person, zoos
persons, ever and against, said well
we should make an organization, someone
should do it
- "Someone..."
- Yes, of course. In the end, of course, nothing happened and even the
people who tried fails, because an old
man is talking about the youth of today,
a lot of people today, I think, they
haven't learned to force themselves to
something they want to do. So
nothing happened. On one of these
zeta-prides, there was really a reason to
make an organization, because the Green
Party, in Germany, had worked a draft of a
new animal protection law in which one
of the point was that sexual contacts
with animals and humans should be banned
and penalized [#help loading](27:35) with the fine.
There was really a need
to work against this. The background is
that the Germany had to follow this what
European Union makes as a law, [#help it's such called a law,
a guiding line](27:57) : animals in laboratories had to get
a better life as far as possible, and
Germany did not react and did not change
the law. And it came so far that Germany
was short before coming before court of the
European Union and they had to do
something.
And so the Green Party made
this proposition. We said we'll have
to make an organization.
If you say I'm [#helpits mullah Joe average _____ ] (28:32) and I say your
law is not good for me and it was not [#help thought](28:28)
to the end and it's not
protecting animals rights, then they say
"thank you for your input".
If you have an
organization (you have a bit of lobbying power),
you have the chance to be heard.
(28:51)
We said together in a around and made
the outlines of what we want and the outlines of a
constitution of this verein. I said I would
organize this, because I know I can
organize it, I can organize, and so I did
(well done!), thanks, in a very sharp way
so I said we are now making this in
debt and I posted this over the forums which were there at this time.
We are now making this end in debt and you can
say what you went until to next week
at 7 o'clock.
And then there was a next step:
there were a lot of people who
were very eager and you need 7 persons
to found a verein (interesting) and when we
in the end met, which was in Berlin,
to fond the zeta verein. There were some
who didn't there and we had one too less:
we only had six who would but then we
got the signature of one who really
wasn't there: someone went to him and
take took his signature, and then we had
seven.
- Ho, thank God !
- In the next two years, we
nearly didn't anything, because if you
first wanted to be registered. You
have to go to a court and your verein has
to be registered and then you are a legal
entity.
- So it takes all a while for the
courts to actually register it ?
- No, it took a while, it took a short while to
let them say : "no you are torturing
animals and we will not register you", and
then we made a lawsuit against this,
which went up to the highest court in
Berlin, and came down again and as I said
"no you are torturing animals" then we
said no it's not this way, try it again
with a changed Constitution which was
denied also, then we went up to this to
the highest court at Berlin, and back again then we
had one who knew just a lot about legal
things, but unfortunately he was also
people are, so someone who is
very enthusiastic for a while and [#help send
flips down to be very depressed.] (31:35)
- He seems bipolar
- Bipolar, ok bipolar
- Well and short before the next
round through these instances,
through the different levels of
[#help of the courts, was ready, he just
disappeared and was depressive] (31:51)
- Well so this was not a very easy journey,
this was wrought with obstacles
- No, it wasn't... we tried because
this court, who register verein, are
regional and then we tried with
another verein, at my place, which was
called [.Zeta but see I was a](32:20)
I slightly changed Constitution, but
obviously these courts had talked to
each other, and it was actually not the
only argument that was left of all these
things : they had said we do like torture
on animals and fucking animals to death
and all these things...
- Oh my god...
- Was that we don't follow the good [#help manners](32:44) which
is a reason not to register a verein.
But, yes, it's the law, but unfortunately, it's [#help true](32:54)
and so we stopped to try to get a register.
And in the end, we got
the highest court in Berlin, called [#help "camagreed"](33:11) made a press release
that we these Verein of zoophiles were not allowed to be registered.
Then the media [#help exploded/exposed].
I don't why, but and it exploded to worldwide until to Vietnam !
'Cause they couldn't read it but
- I bet it's the sentiment travels people
understand what it's about
yes well and then, we had a lot of people who are
interested in us and a lot of people who who wanted to
[#help tar and feather us](33:50)
Well all the [#help ologies](33:53) possible, but we had the media, in 2012,
at the beginning, so more or less, then the
new law was as a proposition from
the cdu/csu which is Conservative Party
and the FTP, which is liberal for [#help the ___ ones](34:20).
[#help This party and... they made a proposition, and the proposition was the Green Party was still I
was also still pending](34:31)
And then we got active.
- You couldn't wait any more to be registered so you just had to do what you gotta do.
(34:39)
- Yes, and we wrote to every
deputy of the Bundestag, with a little brochure about us, and we wrote to the
members of the Bundestag, which is the second chamber, after all this [#help wouldn't helped](34:58)
because we had to [#help head our block](35:00), which was read very much at this time
and, of course, there we said our opinion
and in the end, the Bundestag president, so
the highest person in the state, had to
sign this law to make it come in force
and we'd wrote to him, but in the
end, the law took force.
- So, let's just kind of recap very
briefly here: you've created a society,
you get rejection a lot for years.
A law has passed, that seems, at the time, and it's touted by anti-zoo
activists as an anti-zoo law
(35:41)
- This is a little discouraging to
have to work through all that, be
rejected in every direction, and yet
still you guys kept pushing through.
So, I'll say I was kind of give a spoiler
for the people keeping score at home,
eventually, it was decided that this new
law did not apply to zoofiles, and will
probably be getting to that here soon.
At this time, this is about 2012...
- It was ready too the Bundestag, in
December I think, 2012 on february, 2nd of february, in
which we defined afterwards as zoophile's
rights day, it passed the
Bundestag, and i think 22 july
12 in 2013, it wents in, it came to force.
[TODO : To continue here ...]
- Okay and then you guys had about a year
to do something about it is that right
you can challenge the law if you think
its disturbs your civil rights the
rights you guys challenge that law in
what way we searched for a lawyer who
had already made this kind of challenges
night with entry found one and then we
had to find two people so who think they
are disturbed in their rights so these
two persons although they weren't any
more members of theta said they take the
risk and be our persons the persons of
the people who making this complaint we
aceite could not make this complaint
because we are still not registered and
we are not a legal entity so it must be
a natural person or to natural persons
who's complaining
well it costs a lot of money a lot of
time and some work but we had scientists
who supporting us with with texts they
wrote from their science sort of you in
the in science and so you had this kind
of like coalition of like ignant hey
assholes
we're affected by this negatively yeah
and
and here's all the experts need to know
that this is bullshit yes and what is
not very much known we also had a letter
of Peter Oh which in which there was
said that zu who was who had to go to to
the courts because antes thought he
would have raped his dog and took the
dog away and the dog disappeared then he
was there with his other dog and one
significant member of Peter wrote a
letter to this court that he did not
think that this person is doing bad for
dogs so this this also went to the bonus
for fastened skillet well in the year
later more or less there was a decision
about 95% of the complaints the
professor's clicked did not take it to a
decision but they wrote a reason why
they did it and in this reason it was
said because of well in the Lord said
that you are not allowed to demand of
animals things they cannot maybe just to
cite the law the law is it is forbidden
to use an animal wants sex for one's own
sexual acts or to train or make
available an animal for sexual acts of
third parties they are by forcing it to
behave in an abusive manner so the the
the last part of this law is what's
critical because you have to decide
whether the law asserts that you you
force it to behave in that way or
whether whether you have to find that
someone causes the animal in order to
the law to apply yeah and in another
part of this law it is said that you are
not allowed to demand a from an animal
something the animal
not to and the the Mustafa single it
said well it means that you allowed
allowed to the amount of animals things
they can do do do you use force physical
force then of course it's not allowed to
have sexual contacts with an animal but
what is this with psychological
psychological psychological force and
their the the this decision said that
it's must of such a strength or that it
resembles to physical force because of
zoophiles no one wants to force an
animals to have sex with them you say no
if they don't want then there's not
there's none then because of this zoo
files are not afflicted by this law and
now we're it's where this is clear it is
off cam this is has come to the yeah
zoos before the victory means that you
were safe basically from the law as long
as you're not abusing animals yes yeah
now comment I think at one point you had
kind of described how your stretch your
strategic thinking for having challenged
this law you want to kind of kind of
describe how you were thinking about
challenging the law yes so the the
problem with the law was that it was was
sad to be a anti zoophilia law so I
clearly clearly from the debates that
were in the media the law was meant to
be against Sioux Falls but from what was
written in the law it was clearly not
against us at all but it was against
so-called animal products which was a
rumor that was spread at that time yeah
let's just be clear about that real
quick because we've watched a lot of
things
and kind of doesn't send some digging on
that animal brothels there's no evidence
that they've ever existed and the ones
that were alleged to exist turned out to
be hoaxes that is correct for Europe
that's correct
there's a single animal protocol in
Indonesia it's thing I think where they
abuse foreign Newtons something like
that
so that's that's one that's been
verified
yeah that's verified and otherwise
there's that does not exist a single
other one and if there was any in
Germany we would fight to get it closed
and free the animals but the the these
rumors were used to tell the story about
Siviglia to resume towards Denmark and
all the stupid stuff which there wasn't
any as well and the antes knew about
that and they still kept talking about
that they kept talking about five
hundred thousand animals killed every
year by zoo farts and yeah and we
actually calculated try to calculate the
number what that would mean how many who
fights they had to exist for that to
actually be possible and how long it
would take before exhale extinction of
all animals in Europe if that number was
true yeah it was about two or five years
so these are outlandish claims yeah yeah
but the claims were made by animal
protection organizations right so not
just random people it was made by those
organizations so the the public debate
made it clear that the law was again was
meant against zoo fans the actual law
seemed to be meant against those
imagined animal brochures so just to get
until to get clarification about that we
went to the
the constant constitutional court and
had to winning scenarios winning
scenario one would be to have this law
taken back or a clarification that the
law is not about zoophilia the second
winning scenario became reality
so we celebrated that in the same way
the ante is celebrated the law when it
when it passed the Parliament there was
so it's just just a tiny little bit but
they used a cert in their article they
use a certain picture of of champagne
and we search that picture it was one
photo photo stock or something and we
use the exact same picture that's cheeky
so you guys okay so comment you or in an
interview before and then after this law
happened with a certain female reporter
who remarked on your luscious eyelashes
original tell me about that first
interview because you know reading the
interview she does seem kind of like oh
god this is weird and gross at least at
first
well I I don't think that from my
perspective it was she wrote a letter to
Zeta and two of us said okay we would do
such an interview and then we had a lot
of lots of interview via via Skype and I
recorded the interview so they are they
sum up to maybe ten or fifteen hours of
interview oh my gosh well and that was
just for the preparation so I thought
yeah after that she went to the place of
the Yahoo and I went with her to and
there he had
actually interview which took about
three or four hours again yeah so I know
so like what I what I noted was a sense
of sort of apprehension and I feel like
maybe it was like obligatory
apprehension like you know I have to
show some sort of sign that you know I
don't readily and like yeah like I'm not
readily actively like pro this issue I
have to show some distance and kind of
show apprehension to it yeah that's a
common technique I think they they try
to mirror works society things or what
the reader may think and then take them
on on the journey of new information
based on on having the same position at
the beginning so what what you can see
in the first articulately it was trying
to paint an image of a secret zoophile
society where it was hard to get into or
to find something when in reality she
wrote a letter and he said yes yeah they
like to represent zoos as a secret
society that that term come here is not
a my friends I found that this picture
changed dramatically over the last six
years so there's a newer video by a
German form art called Y collector and
so he started his this video first with
a kind of trigger warning which seems to
be usual nowadays and then he said well
it was easy to find a zoophile
I just wrote a letter and we went so so
just by having a lot of interviews over
the time which is I guess over a dozen
by now the perception of sulphides
changed in this first impression they
they give and I also think that it
changes further because the more
interviews we give or the more articles
we have the the next journalist who
wants to make a new article will read
those articles and then we'll invite Oh
to find thumb say something new to tell
about so just happy they get they get a
bigger picture with more perspective and
like a more accurate reflection of who
you are yeah and also for that I think
it's possible to it's important to have
as many different people to tell about
the talk about themselves yes I agree
because you run into the risk of
becoming a cliche when being the one
representives zoophile in the world and
right every other zoo seems to be the
same way I think it's important to have
as many different salutely yes different
perspective now speaking of that the two
of you are both out as zoo files in your
lives Nisan yes correct yes that's
correct yes partially click now for I'll
get to that so Michael you are you free
for you it's completely correct yes yes
all right
so how did it come about that you what
was your experience coming out as a zoo
and what is your experience as a zoo who
is out over the past six years no it's
more like oh no I'm talking about like
you know Suze Hughes kinda was saying
that your perception has changed over
the past six years
oh so how is your experience as being in
out zoo changed over the past six years
well in the beginning I was very
cautious then I don't really know know
how it came but I was more or less open
since II the discussions in the
you toxics I was with my real name there
nothing happened and then I had a
website since 1999 15 lakh well you know
you in Germany you must have impression
impression where you write your your
contacts contact a really you're like
required to by law and oh that's insane
the US were very very protective of diet
as well as a good citizen citizen and
working for the state of call of course
I wrote it there and nothing happened
and some friends of mine knew it and in
the I am I was singing in a choir I move
a move now away and kind of kind of get
that anymore but every year we go on a
weekend with a choir and on one of this
weekend I made a reading out of my
translation of the horsemen and and well
they were somewhere looking strange but
nothing happened I'm still in this choir
and if they like me and there is
something to be said about being a human
being being out of the zoo yes I think
the closer the people are the the less
important or dangerous dangerous it is
to to come out because they know you and
that you are a zoo is just another
information about you which have perhaps
perhaps guessed somehow and that's
that's this way that's me ye so loving
with the stork and so on and but it is
not as just another information and it
doesn't matter very much the the the
power of the people are the more they
get excited and hostile and my mother
perhaps you see she she thoughts about
it something somehow but she never said
something and she is never reading the
build site on which is notorious German
like a tabloid yeah not a tablet but
that's the sudden in England in the 50s
there was even a decision of a court
that build site on has not it was not
allowed anymore to call it its site on
which is newspaper because for a
newspaper you know you have to have at
least at least a very small part of fair
effect their journalists responsibility
well but they called me and said they
wanted to write something about me
whether I would give some an interview
and I talked and then they said well if
you don't give us an interview you are
writing what take anything they are
watching something anyway
and so I I got them here and they came
very full of suspicion and went
light-hearted and enthusiastic
enthusiastic Wow so so Cassie my dog
heads convinced them some weeks later
the first set said it would only be in
the Berlin part of this build site on
but of course it was in the
national national part of the boots item
I lost I left my wife for a dog which
was not really true now the rest the
rest of the article was what was it bad
only the headline was bullshit like my
mother never reads built Zeitung
although she is if she's not in in
holidays of course she was in holidays
and then I got the phone call and talk
about 3/4 of an hour but in the end it
was well we were still friends that's
gone after some somewhere afterwards the
things got worse when Facebook and other
social networks came to came on the
scene a piece near I don't know this a
piece was not a thing in Germany it was
it was a big for Denmark's anti zoo
balls it was one of the anonymous
operations operation beasts and they
were the ones that were posting all
those things online with like pictures
of animals being abused in non-sexual
way yeah next to stop the anti zoo
propaganda yeah so that was a beast and
so they really push for Denmark's laws
and got that passed and I think they I
got the impression they were really
working on all of Europe so you did not
have a lot of it were other groups
interests and and it was as in a
predecessor of Facebook which was caught
via country who knows who where another
zoo who was also in animal welfare
that's given us his homepage the SATA
homepage which was not the best idea
no and
then there was an uproar and this Aussie
was the guy whom the dog was taken away
right here some people had announced
they're coming to beat us up right so we
set here with three bottles of pepper
spray and me and him and a very good
female friend of mine which and we were
sitting here and no one came of course
that income well I know there was this
one point where you had people outside
of your house yes this was indeed they
made in the immediate administration
let's say yeah you said in the in the
translation they called a silent vigil
which is a very experienced thing when
we think of silent vigil in the u.s. we
think of like a like a funeral sort of
thing with candles mm-hmm was like yes
but they had not candles was over the
day and they stood there and gave
leaflets with propaganda to the people
and talk to people and so on and then
and then they wanted to come to me and
they came to me well and there were 30
persons standing out of in front of my
garden door and weren't calling with a
megaphone some paroles like how I ignore
which was the mist ministry at this time
protect the animals and so on and I said
I'm leaving in the middle of nowhere
yeah and I said well yes she will hear
you and an hour after an hour and after
of course giving lots of propaganda to
my neighbors they disappeared again and
next day I was at the police complaining
because they have to you have to
announce to the police it's you're
making a demonstration right and from
when we saw the times and the place
and what the police did not verify was
that the way to my work to where I live
is also private property and they were
on private property Wow
in the end I got a phone call of the
county police in chief who was saying
well sorry for that we did not verify
all of what I did that so on well yes
then the second time they came but then
the state they state well they should
these should should stay did not come to
private property and I wasn't alone at
this time we made a barbecue here with
some friends and when the barbecue was
over it began to rain and the antis
disappeared how about that one thing we
run free once did this bipolar guy had a
web space and he was of the opinion that
everybody must know everything
no secrets and everything very good well
and we stopped there an invitation for a
Zita gathering somewhere in the middle
of nova via the rhine and of course we
knew that the antes would find it and
indeed they came there was a lot of
people and were very unfriendly to some
people on a camping place but we weren't
here the ant is also spilled propaganda
and outed me on my working place my mike
university picked me up that's kind and
they said well he's doing his work he is
not harassing others with zoophilia
what she doesn't is in its private life
is not all it's not all affair and well
I I'm still there and if I'm if I'm
lucky or we go to retirement in two
years oh really Congrats that's
fantastic that yes yes you know and you
know a lot of times the these auntie's
want to convince us that no one else
will ever stand up for us and we find
that in the real world that is often not
true
and yet it's good to keep in mind that
that that real people are often a lot
more decent than we often assure
ourselves that they are you know right I
think we have more more fears than it's
needed
yes well they want us to be that way it
said of course
so come on you said earlier that you're
not you're you're out but not it's not
entirely the case what did you mean by
that
so I'm not out in public when I give
interviews
I tell the donors that I can have that
they can have my voice they can have my
thoughts my opinions but they cannot
have my name or my opinion okay yeah
that's that's a very strict rule because
once they have my name because I have a
distinctive name that only exists once
on this planet that could be right so
there's there's power in a name yeah and
that's there are some people who who
like to once they have a name they use
it in their articles and claim things
about things about anything and if I if
I would go to a company and they would
google my name they would find would
find out easily and that could be a big
problem for my line so so I I keep them
secret
I don't even tell the journalists what
my name I came out to my friends in the
end of 2012
so about 12 friends at the same time Wow
hmm they were all fine I imagine you
like it is a small dinner and you stand
up with a little champagne glass and tap
on it with the fork excuse me friends I
haven't announced a it was it was more
like after the I became very depressed
and my friends noticed that and they
said a comment what's going on I told
them that that's that is what just
happened at that and that depresses me
and they said what we know you you're
fine with it
a little bit of encouragement friends
that's what's up mm-hmm actually that
was a big release for me teacher because
after that we could talk about the topic
free
there was one significant situation
after we came back from a tournament of
our sport we sat together at the pizza
and one of the one of my my friends put
his hand on mine telling me something
about a green field where we were lying
and then there was the moon and
something he was talking about something
romantic and then he said something
about a unicorn and I interrupted him
and said oh are you talking about the
unicorn I left you for everyone on the
table understood everyone was laughing
with me and that was such a great
situation such ratings which we have
yeah so that helped me it helped me
along sure I love that I love that
there's really like there's no there's
no substitute for supportive friends
really and you know I feel bad I see a
lot of people are like you just can't
trust anyone with this and I feel like
it's human nature to have someone you
can trust with these things you know
mm-hmm and the relief of having that is
it's so important for your mental health
I think mm-hmm yes yeah I mean you
definitely become sick with having to
keep such an important part of yourself
a secret because there's there's a
difference between secrecy and privacy
you know and I think most of us are
private people but when you have to keep
something a secret like that I mean it
eats away because you have to start
covering for it you know in a situation
where the honest answer is one thing you
have to make something else up and
people pick up on that and they don't
know what's up and a lot of times you
know they might think that there's
something really untoward and you're in
your personal life when it's like no
it's it's nothing like that it's it's
just something that's been you know
demonized in yes you know media in
people's minds but and that's why as
you're saying comment and it's been my
experience and I know toggles experience
to the people who already know you and
know your character and whether you're a
good person or not when you come out to
them they don't have a problem with it
even if they you know might not want to
think too much about it because it you
know it might be gross to them or
whatever and that's that's fine that's
if that's their honest feeling but for
you as a person they they understand
that you are still the same person that
they that they knew before and it's
really only the people who have no idea
who you are as a person who immediately
jumped to demonizing you and calling you
an abuser and all these things yes and I
and I observed that this is mostly women
who are demonizing you interesting I
think a lot of women have had
experiences with sexualized for and and
say yes good no they think that the
animals is like them and want to protect
them with all the force female member
has and so they
this week we'll explain perhaps a lot of
the the vehemence II know they they
force these people are they the energy
the the the much energy these these
people this women have to fight him
right so basically because of their
experiences as well it's not really
their fault it's definitely a societal
thing where we will review sex this is
kind of power exchange where you know
one person is taking something from
another systematically objectified yeah
the women are subjected to that and so
they they would definitely I can
understand why they would perhaps be
more more prone to that although I would
love to hear a female's perspective on
that just kind of to verify that
especially from a female zoos
perspective I wonder how well that
translates for them but you know comment
I want to say what what as someone who
is out with your friends starting from
this very crucial moment where this law
has been passed how has your experience
as an altitude changed over the past six
years not at all to be honest so for for
that nothing has changed I think has
changed the relationship I'm I'm even
out to my family and nothing has changed
there I didn't I didn't come out to my
in my company so I couldn't find the
courage to be honest sometimes is
another fucking business you know it's
funny our friend doodle we were
recording a podcast I think it was last
month and doodle was at his workplace
when he was he's trying to get his
laptop and his boss was like hey what
are you doing
he's like recording a podcast oh really
you're in a podcast what kind of podcast
is it tell me about your podcast he was
like it is a zoophile podcast and as
well as like oh it's really well I guess
as long as you're not actually hurting
animals I guess I don't care I mean you
know it was very very scary for him but
he is still employed again he's known
he's known his boss there for I don't
know like a decade or something like
that so his boss knows who he is as a
person right and we actually went inside
after that and and we all had to talk
together and yeah the guy was just you
know he's like I you know like I
understand it's you know it's it's odd
and I don't necessarily want to hear
about it but at the same time like it
was what he said it's like I I know you
know doodle and and I know that he would
never hurt anyone and and you know it's
it's fine I want to add something about
the advantages of being out yes please
absolutely for a long time of my life I
tried to suppress a zoophilia I even
married and had a therapist and all the
other things and in the in the end you
you end up with having to control
yourself
you're what you say what you think that
your breath does not be fast in in
situations and when someone is telling
telling a Sofer a joke all this consumes
a lot of energy and more energy at least
at I that I could produce so I was
always something like depressive now
this is gone the second advantage is you
cannot be blackmailed so it's my number
one advantage if someone if someone says
oh you're a zoo I would tell someone
it says everybody knows
yes you know an episode three I believe
we talked about blackmail and the most
radical thing you can do to to
undermined someone who might blackmail
you is disclose the information yourself
mm-hmm which can be very scary for zhuzh
especially in the u.s. I know even
especially in places where it's far less
tolerant than the US but you know that
sort of power taking that power back and
giving it to yourself is how shall I say
empowering yes yeah and it also it
relieves you because when something so
central like your sexuality is
criminalized it it necessarily casts a
pall on it you know and we hear the
terms you know like shadowy and deep
dark in these things and there's nothing
dark about my sexuality there's nothing
dark about the sexuality of my friends
is you know as far as I've witnessed and
being out like that and owning what you
are and embracing it is an incredibly
powerful way of casting that stigma out
of your own heart that because it does
get internalized of course however hard
you fight it and that is very much fed
by having to be secretive about it
because you know that's the the
expression you know of that of that
paradigm you know as being secretive you
have to keep it secret well if you don't
then what happens well you realize that
it's just fine you know I think the
other the thing about coming out is that
when you are out you become a person in
the eyes of everyone around you who also
is a zoophile so you make zoophile human
and you think one of the problems that
we have is that when laws are being
passed and things like that Zoo files
are and a caricature of what we are
someone else defines what we are when we
are not there just to define ourselves
yes right yes so I wonder having had
this conversation with you guys what
can we in the u.s. learned from the
struggles you had in Germany with your
legal system so just I don't know how
familiar are in the u.s. the legal
battles with best eality start at about
98 99 with a sayers who Randy Pepe etc
etc yeah so we have a legacy the other
difference between us and say Germany is
that our laws are passed state by state
by state by state so you don't have an
you don't have a federal law even being
considered until maybe last year and so
you don't have you have this kind of
like oh well it may be illegal in Oregon
but it's not illegal in Texas oh but now
it's legal in Texas but you know it's
not illegal in Vermont and so you kind
of have this more gradual like taking
over of the legal system so to speak and
so we have 20 years of laws being passed
against us without anyone representing
us yes and I wonder what we can take
from your position where you start from
being legal with perhaps misperceptions
and then becoming illegal and then
getting the clarification that you're
not one advice would you give to
activists in the u.s. now trying to
fight twenty years of not having any
representation under the law make an
organization all right start an
organization reachable by journalism and
scientists that's the most important
thing because everything you do and say
is read by journalists and scientists
actually we have when we have the debate
in 2020 about about this new law mm-hmm
there was an anthropologist who was
reading about everything that we wrote
and everything that the and his bro and
he actually wrote a paper about the
whole process and he called it something
like at last zoophilia and the normative
retroflex e or something like that
he wrote it in Germany and German and so
in his article he he refers to articles
of Zetas he even refers to articles on
FINA talk which was Michael something so
the next scientist that will read his
paper will also be referred to our
website and our animals and this is how
you become actual part of the science
and can have an impact on the sign also
with with journalists I'd say for the
first interviews I wouldn't cooperate
with yellow press right absolutely
no no no because they will bring your
loaded questions and find ways to turn
what you say against you well so once
you're visible as an organization there
will be journalists that let's say oh I
want to do a report about you I want to
talk with you about its aphelion and it
would be good to have people who are fit
talking with journalists they know how
what quotes are used and which ones are
are for example I found when you use
complex sentences most of the times they
don't use them at all
right so that so they want these quick
short sentences that everyone can
understand so what you may work may try
to work out some sentences you want to
say you interview to make sure that they
can be part of the article or the video
that is Frank yeah and then don't fear
to repeat yourself yes we we have a we
have had a few interviews recently that
all went the this in the same scheme
sort of so now the
most would visit us we would walk
through a forest they would film us and
and our animal partner and then you
would he would go on with it an anti zoo
or a or Peter or whoever or maybe a
psychologist talk to them and cut
everything together just recently we got
a request from journalists mm-hmm who
has seen all these videos and he said
where they are all the same scheme I
don't want to make it the same way I
want to make different maybe we can have
a zoo and an auntie in the same room
discussing with each other yeah yeah
it's scary but also fun and I consider
that this next step I think when you see
us next to each other you realize who's
the more reasonable of the two mm-hm
exactly and also right now this
journalist held a big trouble finding an
auntie to talk with interesting because
they don't want it they don't want to
talk with us they want to propagate
their position they don't want to argue
right well then you get some advantage
as well if you if you feel fear then you
feel fear it's not much it will go away
somewhere and if you get in trouble
because of what you do or what you say
or that you are out that it's far easier
to cope to hanging with this trouble
we tend with the fear of this trouble
right right right right right
it is easier to deal with the actual
trouble than it is to deal with being
afraid of the trouble yes I wanted to to
ask a little bit more we don't have to
talk about it now because it seems like
we were not focusing on this part of
things but when you were talking about
the history of Zeta vine yeah that right
fine I sound so it sounds so much better
when he said
so you had been contemplating making an
organization well in advance of the law
right it's Wendy when the first first
draft of a 90 sulla appeared on the
scene yes so it was basic so the the
possibility of a law being passed was
the factor that even got you thinking
about making an organization no it was
that was is that the factorized effect
of making in an organization there were
many thoughts about an organization but
it never came to reality it was that
factor that that turned it was yes yeah
yeah yeah catalyst is Lord that I need
that made it suddenly necessary to
actually do it rather than to just think
about it but you had been talking about
Zeta Pride conventions and I had wanted
to know what the the social situation
frizzies in Germany is and was and it
sounds like it was a pretty close-knit
before there was a need for an
organization to to fight in the courts I
close it but what is it well it's close
knit me close knit means you had a very
close relationship with one another okay
at least in my case it is not this way I
don't have so many contacts I know that
there were people and I know that if
something happens I can contact them and
we will be the same friends like we were
20 years ago
but I have not so many many contacts
also not in in in normal life because
people in control those is okay but not
too much so I can't say very much about
it but I think before the auntie's came
into place there was there were forward
there also were people who had a lot of
contact with each other and perhaps met
themselves and afterwards then there was
a lot of fear there was a lot of fear
between the Xu's and everybody
disappeared in the dark not everybody
but a lot of them disappeared in the
dark I think I'm not sure about it but I
think that there are a lot of little
circles of friends but you don't hear
anything about some perhaps commit us no
more no it's the same thing for me I'm
actually not active in any discussion
board anymore also because the the
debates are most of the time just the
same and by once you're through them it
becomes kind of boring
oh yeah so so I have if it's just like
Micah said I have a few friends new
friends that I have regular contact and
I rarely add or get a new one so far
friend nowadays oh no it's kind of
quieted down the new contact wishes it's
a bit sad but I guess if I start to be
active in the zoo zoo five board
discussion boards that would become new
one very soon but I just I'm just not
that active there are many boats left
yeah yeah we have one or two John what's
today's it's it a telephone info and
part of zoo ball is in German but has a
German part so I wonder let me ask you a
question this is maybe or maybe not off
the record that we're still recording
when he had someone on Twitter obviously
Twitter is is not really representative
of like
the struggle but we had someone on
Twitter that was very critical of people
on Twitter suggesting that you know no
one was interested in any sort of
advancement of zoo rights based on what
they had seen now obviously they had not
talked to me very much
they had not talked to anyone associated
with our pod has nobody talked they talk
but none of us who are actually doing
this kind of thing and critiqued both
the Twitter platform and the podcast is
being somehow not valid or legitimate
activism what are your thoughts on that
activism is when you open your mouth
well said my friend I think there are
many people who prefer some kind of
ostrich they in Germany some zoos think
that we are the reason for them the new
law that came in 2012 we get that a lot
yeah and oh yeah yeah and that they
claim that if we had just stayed silent
so nobody would have recognized us we
wouldn't have that law today no I think
otherwise
there are activists who push toward
those topics and if you stay silent you
will be discriminated over time yep they
because because they can tell the
stories about you that may be true or
not true but they have the control over
the stories no they can do it they can
do you unless you and the only way to
counter that is to tell your own stories
let's think about this actually you know
in in our situation in the u.s. these
laws are passed without fanfare no one
is fighting against them and when we
think of the stories that may lead to
them like unum claw
what really comes into place is that
let's say you know pinion dying via
horse the story that is told is not the
story of what happened and so we some
people will point it and say look if he
had just you know been quiet or whatever
if that hadn't happened if no one had
seen it then that law wouldn't be passed
but in reality what it is is that
something happens and no one is there to
actually tell the right story yes you
know the story is cared for us by people
who do not have our interests in mind
yes and it's silly to say like that
people who are mutilating animals
sexually or not torturing animals they
get suppressed this is an in sensation
but hundred people who are living in in
in in loving harmony with their partners
and perhaps have sex with them no one
talks about them if they don't talk
about themselves right great
you know it's also like I'm thinking
there's this popular on Twitter article
that's thrown around it's this autopsy
report of an animal that's been sexually
abused and they use that as you know
they send it to us saying look see this
is how you know there's a scientific
article that's anti zoo and I'm like yes
but the problem here is that the
representative population is add an
animal and that's not representative do
relationships with animals and look for
the origins of these pictures yeah here
they also ventilate a lot of pictures of
mutilated animals but usually mutilated
just regularly sexual interaction
ocularly but if you follow them if you
follow them pick and in search where
these pictures appeared the first time
then it comes that it was in in Turkey
or somewhere at the other side of the
words and not in Germany
some sometimes they would even just use
random pictures that look like something
else
yes example there's a that's a picture
of a female dog who had an operation I
don't know what operation but her back
was covered in Inyo Dean yeah it looks
like blood and I said oh the stock was
right to death okay it was a male I'm a
job yes okay but the point is that they
they light up stories they make up
stories about pictures they just find at
some place some random place on the
Internet right it's interesting to me
it's always been interesting to you that
they they feel that they have to lie
it's just it's just that propaganda
technique they they know which stories
work with people and so they try to tell
those stories right that's that's that's
how their political strategy works and
the only way it took the only way to
counter that is first research the true
story behind a picture second popplers
the true story again on your on your
website so people can research the true
story and thereby get a chance to see
how these people are lying and see the
the funny thing to me is that when they
try to present these absurd cases as
being somehow representative of zoo
files if what they were saying was true
we would all be immediately jailed
because all of our animals would be
completely fucked up and every time we
took them to the vet they would see all
these horrible signs of abuse and you
know strange behavior which of course
they don't because they're not yes right
you know but it never seems to occur to
them that sorry half a million five
hundred thousand is the judicious
estimate so I want to say like we would
you know obviously we did a little bit
of research we looked up the zeta
Society for for you know what you stand
for your Constitution and I want to say
I think a lot of what you stand for
aligns very much with our vision of our
podcast so I will I would be so bold as
the hope that we can work together in
the future as well I would love that
it's yes I think we have lots of stuff
to talk about we still want to talk
about but I think we've got a pretty
good basis for for today a good
understanding of you know the past of
the zeta Society and the situation in
Germany so I want to thank you so so
much for coming and joining us today it
has been an absolute pleasure it's been
a privilege to talk with you too
thank you for coming and hanging out
with us we'll be right back with more
zoo in the nail right after this you've
been there for me my whole life
you taught me everything I'm at a time
my shoes to how to be a decent person
you tell me you love me every day and I
love you too we have no secrets between
us except that I am a zoophile
and I am afraid to tell you when you ask
when am I gonna have grandkids how could
I ever explain that my first love was
our family dog you tell me you love me
unconditionally but other parents have
disowned their daughters for less so I'm
a zoophile you note but you've known me
all my life
I'm still the same girl you raised
ultimately you decide how our
relationship continues from here you
could abandon me and disgust and claim
you have no daughter or you could be the
rock that you've always been and try to
understand and tell me you still love me
I think you always have what will you do
hello ladies and gents and all else in
between your favorite Dame of a Dane is
very very excited to be back here at ztt
soon just enjoying the tail end of a
little trip pardon the pun
you see I've never been a fan of cold
weather and while there's no shortage of
devilish dogs and donkeys deigning to
dote on the Dane in a dirty deco
lessened demeanor I can't help a
liveable iteration i benched watched the
last season of Bojack horseman on the
flight you see but your lovely host has
decided to take her amorous adventures
to the Pacific Hawaii to be specific
I'll just get right to it
this trip took me to the city of Kahului
on the island of Maui this Dane does
prefer to avoid colonialist resorts and
obvious tourist traps she's much better
than that but I'd much rather spend my
time out in the nearby West Maui Forest
Reserve flaunting my flair to the
forests fauna which is exactly what I
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mince words but you could Bowl with his
balls I caught his eye and worked the
charm that I'm certain you're all
already familiar with it didn't take
long for the gruff handsome beast to
find his way on top of me and right out
in the middle of the forest like an
untamed a wild animal
he took me it didn't take long for that
corkscrew cock to climb down into me
doggy style
in the mud and I do enjoy a nice mud
bath so this wasn't out of my wheelhouse
and when he came he came buckets and
bathtubs unloading for a good 30 minutes
the stain was swelling aching in all the
best ways then my enthusiasm for his
talented tool led my beautiful boar to
introduce me afterwards to a friend of
his a dexterously dick to dolphin whose
prehensile penis provided pleasure
excellence I had also read a lot of
Shakespeare on the flight
pardon my poetics however it's hard to
be bored being bored by a bore but
dipping my toes in the water to feel
something long wet and wriggly twist
around in my woof
forgive me I'm a bit flustered now but
anyway that's where I've been cold
weather is fine for cuddling but your
lovely host much prefers it hot now if
you'll excuse me I'm in a bit of a mood
and I need to visit a local starter 2 or
a 5 your host is a bit pent up but she
is excited to see you all soon stay zuy
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the thing is my hooves make it really
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SIEG FUCKING HEIL!!
Stay comfy in Tel Aviv while you still can; cause I swear to Adolf Hitler himself if you foreskin-munching, nation-subverting, degeneracy-pushing, hand-rubbing, gene-stealing, oy-veying, christ-killing, loan-usuring, interest-charging, false-flagging, palestine-murdering, antichrist-worshipping, "liberty"-bombing, child-sacrificing, well-poisoning, terrorism-funding, 9/11-orchestrating, oven-dodging, war-profiteering speech-censoring, truth-suppressing, pilpul-shilling, penny-picking, genital-mutilating, epstein-islanding, white-genociding, ISIS-running, usury-committing, abrahamicreligions-faking, BLM-supporting, refugee-welcoming, nigger-slaving, adrenochrome-collecting, pedophilia-legalizing, porn-broadcasting, JIDF-shilling, dravidian-promoting, LGBT-flag-flying, coin-shaving, compound-interesting, clotshot-injecting, 6gorillion-crying, forever-kvetching, idea-stealing, talmud-thumping, fractional-banking, raisincoin-scamming, ponzi-scheming, shareblue-owning, Arbeit-avoiding, Rothschild-sucking, rhinoplasty-doing, eternal-victim satanic chosenite terrorist elite-mid-manager motherfuckers make yet another raisinty "Trump is a Jewish shill" post one more time, we will gas your illegitimate ass so hard you'll wish the holocaust actually happened.
You will NEVER EVER be a REAL woman. Dilate and join the 41% tranny.
And for your actions, the faggots have committed an unforgivable crime. All faggots shall be removed from Europe and America. No one shall love them nor forgive them. Israel shall be destroyed. Africa shall be recolonized.
And everyone you love goes to hell forever and ceases to be. Along with you.
All that you hate happens. And all that you hate is good. All that you hate wins. And all that you hate is loved by all.
Every harm against you and your ancestors is blessed and good. All that you are is undone. And all you get is punishment.
All your love dies. All that you have is taken. And all that you love kills you.
die in a bus fire, you oven-dodging KIKE. die nigger kike. kill yourself kike. LMAO kikes you're all going to die. die kike die. DIE KIKE DIE. you're going to the gas chamber. you're going to the oven. the #Trump2020 reich will gas ALL KIKES. Trump is fuhrer, Trump is GOD.
Dead niggers for breakfast. Dead niggers for lunch. Dead niggers for dinner.
You sound like a triggered kike. Kill yourself, you retarded NIGGER.
Kill yourself, triggered kike.
TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
SIEG FUCKING HEIL!!
Stay comfy in Tel Aviv while you still can; cause I swear to Adolf Hitler himself if you foreskin-munching, nation-subverting, degeneracy-pushing, hand-rubbing, gene-stealing, oy-veying, christ-killing, loan-usuring, interest-charging, false-flagging, palestine-murdering, antichrist-worshipping, "liberty"-bombing, child-sacrificing, well-poisoning, terrorism-funding, 9/11-orchestrating, oven-dodging, war-profiteering speech-censoring, truth-suppressing, pilpul-shilling, penny-picking, genital-mutilating, epstein-islanding, white-genociding, ISIS-running, usury-committing, abrahamicreligions-faking, BLM-supporting, refugee-welcoming, nigger-slaving, adrenochrome-collecting, pedophilia-legalizing, porn-broadcasting, JIDF-shilling, dravidian-promoting, LGBT-flag-flying, coin-shaving, compound-interesting, clotshot-injecting, 6gorillion-crying, forever-kvetching, idea-stealing, talmud-thumping, fractional-banking, raisincoin-scamming, ponzi-scheming, shareblue-owning, Arbeit-avoiding, Rothschild-sucking, rhinoplasty-doing, eternal-victim satanic chosenite terrorist elite-mid-manager motherfuckers make yet another raisinty "Trump is a Jewish shill" post one more time, we will gas your illegitimate ass so hard you'll wish the holocaust actually happened.
You will NEVER EVER be a REAL woman. Dilate and join the 41% tranny.
And for your actions, the faggots have committed an unforgivable crime. All faggots shall be removed from Europe and America. No one shall love them nor forgive them. Israel shall be destroyed. Africa shall be recolonized.
And everyone you love goes to hell forever and ceases to be. Along with you.
All that you hate happens. And all that you hate is good. All that you hate wins. And all that you hate is loved by all.
Every harm against you and your ancestors is blessed and good. All that you are is undone. And all you get is punishment.
All your love dies. All that you have is taken. And all that you love kills you.
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die in a bus fire, you oven-dodging KIKE. die nigger kike. kill yourself kike. LMAO kikes you're all going to die. die kike die. DIE KIKE DIE. you're going to the gas chamber. you're going to the oven. the #Trump2020 reich will gas ALL KIKES. Trump is fuhrer, Trump is GOD.
Dead niggers for breakfast. Dead niggers for lunch. Dead niggers for dinner.
You sound like a triggered kike. Kill yourself, you retarded NIGGER.
Kill yourself, triggered kike.
TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
SIEG FUCKING HEIL!!
Stay comfy in Tel Aviv while you still can; cause I swear to Adolf Hitler himself if you foreskin-munching, nation-subverting, degeneracy-pushing, hand-rubbing, gene-stealing, oy-veying, christ-killing, loan-usuring, interest-charging, false-flagging, palestine-murdering, antichrist-worshipping, "liberty"-bombing, child-sacrificing, well-poisoning, terrorism-funding, 9/11-orchestrating, oven-dodging, war-profiteering speech-censoring, truth-suppressing, pilpul-shilling, penny-picking, genital-mutilating, epstein-islanding, white-genociding, ISIS-running, usury-committing, abrahamicreligions-faking, BLM-supporting, refugee-welcoming, nigger-slaving, adrenochrome-collecting, pedophilia-legalizing, porn-broadcasting, JIDF-shilling, dravidian-promoting, LGBT-flag-flying, coin-shaving, compound-interesting, clotshot-injecting, 6gorillion-crying, forever-kvetching, idea-stealing, talmud-thumping, fractional-banking, raisincoin-scamming, ponzi-scheming, shareblue-owning, Arbeit-avoiding, Rothschild-sucking, rhinoplasty-doing, eternal-victim satanic chosenite terrorist elite-mid-manager motherfuckers make yet another raisinty "Trump is a Jewish shill" post one more time, we will gas your illegitimate ass so hard you'll wish the holocaust actually happened.
You will NEVER EVER be a REAL woman. Dilate and join the 41% tranny.
And for your actions, the faggots have committed an unforgivable crime. All faggots shall be removed from Europe and America. No one shall love them nor forgive them. Israel shall be destroyed. Africa shall be recolonized.
And everyone you love goes to hell forever and ceases to be. Along with you.
All that you hate happens. And all that you hate is good. All that you hate wins. And all that you hate is loved by all.
Every harm against you and your ancestors is blessed and good. All that you are is undone. And all you get is punishment.
All your love dies. All that you have is taken. And all that you love kills you.
die in a bus fire, you oven-dodging KIKE. die nigger kike. kill yourself kike. LMAO kikes you're all going to die. die kike die. DIE KIKE DIE. you're going to the gas chamber. you're going to the oven. the #Trump2020 reich will gas ALL KIKES. Trump is fuhrer, Trump is GOD.
Dead niggers for breakfast. Dead niggers for lunch. Dead niggers for dinner.
You sound like a triggered kike. Kill yourself, you retarded NIGGER.
Kill yourself, triggered kike.
TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
SIEG FUCKING HEIL!!
Stay comfy in Tel Aviv while you still can; cause I swear to Adolf Hitler himself if you foreskin-munching, nation-subverting, degeneracy-pushing, hand-rubbing, gene-stealing, oy-veying, christ-killing, loan-usuring, interest-charging, false-flagging, palestine-murdering, antichrist-worshipping, "liberty"-bombing, child-sacrificing, well-poisoning, terrorism-funding, 9/11-orchestrating, oven-dodging, war-profiteering speech-censoring, truth-suppressing, pilpul-shilling, penny-picking, genital-mutilating, epstein-islanding, white-genociding, ISIS-running, usury-committing, abrahamicreligions-faking, BLM-supporting, refugee-welcoming, nigger-slaving, adrenochrome-collecting, pedophilia-legalizing, porn-broadcasting, JIDF-shilling, dravidian-promoting, LGBT-flag-flying, coin-shaving, compound-interesting, clotshot-injecting, 6gorillion-crying, forever-kvetching, idea-stealing, talmud-thumping, fractional-banking, raisincoin-scamming, ponzi-scheming, shareblue-owning, Arbeit-avoiding, Rothschild-sucking, rhinoplasty-doing, eternal-victim satanic chosenite terrorist elite-mid-manager motherfuckers make yet another raisinty "Trump is a Jewish shill" post one more time, we will gas your illegitimate ass so hard you'll wish the holocaust actually happened.
You will NEVER EVER be a REAL woman. Dilate and join the 41% tranny.
And for your actions, the faggots have committed an unforgivable crime. All faggots shall be removed from Europe and America. No one shall love them nor forgive them. Israel shall be destroyed. Africa shall be recolonized.
And everyone you love goes to hell forever and ceases to be. Along with you.
All that you hate happens. And all that you hate is good. All that you hate wins. And all that you hate is loved by all.
Every harm against you and your ancestors is blessed and good. All that you are is undone. And all you get is punishment.
All your love dies. All that you have is taken. And all that you love kills you.
die in a bus fire, you oven-dodging KIKE. die nigger kike. kill yourself kike. LMAO kikes you're all going to die. die kike die. DIE KIKE DIE. you're going to the gas chamber. you're going to the oven. the #Trump2020 reich will gas ALL KIKES. Trump is fuhrer, Trump is GOD.
Dead niggers for breakfast. Dead niggers for lunch. Dead niggers for dinner.
You sound like a triggered kike. Kill yourself, you retarded NIGGER.
Kill yourself, triggered kike.
TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& TRUMP IS GOD &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
SIEG FUCKING HEIL!!
Stay comfy in Tel Aviv while you still can; cause I swear to Adolf Hitler himself if you foreskin-munching, nation-subverting, degeneracy-pushing, hand-rubbing, gene-stealing, oy-veying, christ-killing, loan-usuring, interest-charging, false-flagging, palestine-murdering, antichrist-worshipping, "liberty"-bombing, child-sacrificing, well-poisoning, terrorism-funding, 9/11-orchestrating, oven-dodging, war-profiteering speech-censoring, truth-suppressing, pilpul-shilling, penny-picking, genital-mutilating, epstein-islanding, white-genociding, ISIS-running, usury-committing, abrahamicreligions-faking, BLM-supporting, refugee-welcoming, nigger-slaving, adrenochrome-collecting, pedophilia-legalizing, porn-broadcasting, JIDF-shilling, dravidian-promoting, LGBT-flag-flying, coin-shaving, compound-interesting, clotshot-injecting, 6gorillion-crying, forever-kvetching, idea-stealing, talmud-thumping, fractional-banking, raisincoin-scamming, ponzi-scheming, shareblue-owning, Arbeit-avoiding, Rothschild-sucking, rhinoplasty-doing, eternal-victim satanic chosenite terrorist elite-mid-manager motherfuckers make yet another raisinty "Trump is a Jewish shill" post one more time, we will gas your illegitimate ass so hard you'll wish the holocaust actually happened.
You will NEVER EVER be a REAL woman. Dilate and join the 41% tranny.
And for your actions, the faggots have committed an unforgivable crime. All faggots shall be removed from Europe and America. No one shall love them nor forgive them. Israel shall be destroyed. Africa shall be recolonized.
And everyone you love goes to hell forever and ceases to be. Along with you.
All that you hate happens. And all that you hate is good. All that you hate wins. And all that you hate is loved by all.
Every harm against you and your ancestors is blessed and good. All that you are is undone. And all you get is punishment.
All your love dies. All that you have is taken. And all that you love kills you.
KYS ANIMAL RAPIST, WE WILL FIND AND MURDER YOU
ULTIMATE KIKE SEETHING
